# Planning poker, individual or whole group in estimates?

In planning poker/scrum poker, when an estimate is made, should the estimate be made based on the assumption that only a single developer is assigned to that task, or a group of developers? If the latter, how large is that group? The reason this is relevant is that the time estimates would probably be different if a single person works on the problem compared to having several people. I've read several descriptions of how planning poker is supposed to work, but this basic information seems to be omitted, as if it should be inferred from the procedure in some way.

In other words: If I give an estimate, should my estimate be how long I think a single developer in the group needs to spend to solve the problem, or how long the whole group would spend to solve the problem?

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If you're using planning poker and estimating in hours, I can't help thinking that you're doing it wrong. Estimate in Story Points, which are relative to each other, then the question doesn't arise. ie. If a 2-point story to me is twice as much effort as a 1-point story to me; the same statement should be true if we replace me with you. Learning curves should not be included in an estimate; we should assume that we both have each other available to teach. – pdr Mar 19 '13 at 2:09

## 1 Answer

My answer is based on story points as estimation of size & complexity. When estimating points, it's useful to remember that it's like estimating distance -- if you're following a path, that path is n miles long no matter if you're walking, cycling, or driving a car. If you're estimating the complexity of a story, it should be the same no matter if Joe is doing it or Jane is doing it or Bob is doing it.

The actual time it takes to get to your destination (or complete the story) depends on the vehicle; a car will get you to your destination faster than walking will, much like one person may complete the story a bit quicker than someone else. Here's where the analogy breaks down, though, because as pdr says in this comment, "learning curves should not be included in an estimate; we should assume that we both have each other available to teach." And you should assume that anyone could pick up the story and complete it, so the estimation should be one that the group determines together if you want accurate determination of velocity and so forth.

It's worth bearing in mind that if you estimate points based on a 1:1 relationship between individual and story, the rest of your stories should be estimated as such; similarly, if you estimate stories based on multiple people working on them at once, all of them should be like that, otherwise your determination of size and complexity would be off and any calculation of metrics you might use would be relatively meaningless (e.g. what does it mean if you have 5 3 point stories but 3 of them are 3s if everyone works on them and 2 of them are 3s if they're worked on individually? it means you probably want to be measuring the same things all the time.)

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So you can make estimates based on any arbitrary number of people working on the problems, as long as it is consistent? What is the most commonly picked amount of people? One? – ioctlvoid Mar 19 '13 at 10:51
Yes, i would say 1. – jcmeloni Mar 19 '13 at 12:19