Does LaTeX have a future outside of CS? [closed]

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with emphasis on outside of cs science students & staff

In the "good ol' days" LaTeX was it; mainly because of two reasons, first - it gave such a better quality document that nothing else came close, and second - there was pretty much nothing else as a valid alternative. I'm talking 1985-1995 here.

And because of that, a major part of technical (or medicine, biochems., ... which have a logical way of thinking in them) users (people in general, in those professions) used it for their documents. It wasn't too hard to learn, and gave excellent results.

Nowadays, however, things are a changin, as old Dylan would put it. MS Word** for example as the most common one, is giving quite a nice result, with a much higher gain/pain ratio. For most people, it is good enough. If one wants to create a document for which there is no LaTeX template, pros start to weight even more on Word's side.

So, the question is this - do you think /and why - argument it/ LaTeX & co. has a future outside of cs sciences world (which users are inclined towards programming, and therefore usually take in LaTeX structure naturally, or at least with much less effort) given the recent trends?

** insert your favourite word processor; MS Word was taken just as an example

p.s. This was inspired by one other question that came about recently, but also with the trend I noticed recently, but which has been going for a while now (past few years) that even technical magazines, which used to demand articles in TeX, now ask for them in .doc format (or ...).

Answer 1

TeX and LaTeX still lead for typesetting mathematics.

(Of course one could take the view that computer science, the academic discipline—as opposed to software development and systems engineering, is just a branch of mathematics anyway.)

Answer 2

LaTeX is still the lingua franca in mathematics and I doubt that will change as a result of developments from Microsoft. It's entrenched. In other words, in the math community it has the advantage that Microsoft has everywhere else.

However, there's more to it than that. LaTeX (and markup in general) is just in my opinion a much better way to work. It's the right tool for the job. Sometimes hypertext is the right tool for the job and I use that. Word, in my case, is never the right tool. Someone recently asked me "What if someone payed you to use Word?" My response: "I have been payed to use it. It's not a professional tool, it's a tricycle. LaTeX is a Ferrari."

I've had people say to me "Well, Word now understands LaTeX formulae, so you can just use those in Word." They still don't get it. The reasons I use LaTeX are for its structured markup, its ease of use, the quality of the output (which is still lightyears better than anything Word can produce), and because it's free software. I write plenty of documents that have absolutely no math in them, and if I plan on printing them out, they are always better in LaTeX.

Answer 3

Right now I'm writing a book about Google Go. OK, it's still an IT related topic, but outside the university. The publisher allows type setting in TeX and has implemented his own style. For me that's very positve. Simple editing, working with satellite documents, and a very good looking result.

Modern text processors may be ok up do about 50 pages. But larger documents are defenitely better set in TeX.

mue

Answer 4

Word? You must be kidding.

It would take days to set up even the most basic functions you get for free with LaTeX in Word. Automatic section numbering, references, indexes, list of figures, tables etc., floating figures and tables, to name a few.

LaTeX source can be maintained in source control systems. Word-Files cannot (that's why one often has a manually written "Revision history" somewhere near the top (that is barely ever maintained properly)). You can have a main document that includes several sub-documents and let n people work on n different subdocuments (think: Chapters) at the same time and yet have the full document with one button click.

Answer 5

Yes. I have friends (though they did take the optional one CS class in college) who have made the full switch from traditional Word processing tools to LateX.

I've noticed that aside from CS students, Mathematics majors use it a lot too. There's a future, but it's not for the faint of heart. I doubt it will go mainstream but it does have a decent following outside of CS.

Answer 6

In the academia, LaTeX has two problems:

1. It's very hard to write collaboratively with LaTeX, because of (a) no change tracking and (b) all collaborators have to know it.

2. Several journals in many fields (biology is a prime example) don't accept LaTeX documents, and require the document to be sent in an editable form (so converting to PDF is out).

Until 1 is fixed and 2 changes, LaTeX is not going to be an option for the majority of people in fields that are traditionally non-mathematical.

Answer 7

LaTeX is still the most popular tool for typesetting physics papers, as well as (as others have mentioned) mathematics.

Edit: Rook wanted to know about the trend. On the one hand Physical Review (a group of high-profile physics journals) apparently started accepting MS Word submissions in 2003 (see here), so the fact that there was a demand for this suggests an increasing use of MS Word in the last decade.

On the other hand, I finished a physics grad program less than two years ago, and everyone I knew was using LaTeX for their papers and dissertations. (The real nerds even used LaTeX to typeset their homework papers.) I suspect that's the case at most U.S. institutions anyway. Perhaps things are different overseas.

Answer 8

It is still very difficult to automatically generate Word for high-volume use. In truth, LaTeX isn't nearly as easy as groff. People could say that troff is dead too, but billing systems and other high-volume page outputs are scripted with these types of programs. OK, granted I don't know of anyone producing invoicing or bills with LaTeX...

Answer 9

I have a friend working as a Senators aide and he writes all his papers with LaTeX. He says that having all of his custom macros is invaluable.

Answer 10

Once I started to write a paper with a .doc template from IEEE. I did not have LaTex and feared its complexity. So, I used Word because I was used to it. The first couple of pages where fine. But then I began to include figures into the text... The mess was absolutely incredible.

Now, I use LaTeX instead and everything works fine. The figures are placed in nicely, the tables are aligned with the text, etc. without any effort. Not only the result is impressing, but also the ease of use of LaTeX. After some time, I even began to write scripts that do some tests and then produce LaTeX output which is directly included into the paper. Absolutely amazing. Try this with Word! (You'd better forget it.)

But there is also the other side of the medal: If you don't have a template or want to change it - good luck. I don't know how to solve this riddle yet, but I am working on it.

After having used both worlds, I can say: give LaTeX a fair try. It is worth the effort. There are so many GUI Subversion clients out there, that version management is also no problem. Because LaTeX is pure ASCII-text, it can be modified with any scripting language. Of course, the work-flow is different from writing a single page business letter. But this enables much more powerful procedures that are not possible with Open Office and Co.

In my point of view, LaTeX has a future and things are shifting towards it not away. A couple of month ago, a new LaTeX user group was founded in my area. I appreciate that very much, because there is someone to ask, if an annoying problem occurs. Where is your next Word user group?