Why do people use programming books? [closed]

Question

I find that when someone asks what is the best way to learn how to program, people usually provide them with references to a bunch texts written by various authors.

However I don't believe many people at all learn to program from books. I find that they are usually faced with a challenge and then use programming as a tool to overcome it.

For example I 'got into' programming because I wanted to start a server for a game I was playing, so I googled and read through the support for that particular server and now I am a employed software engineer, using only the skills I developed (and then further developed) by coding C# scripts for a not very popular server package.

So my question is, do people generally find it easier to learn from these books? I know I have looked at a few of them and found them far too 'dry' to encourage me to finish it.

Answer 1

Here's how I learn, generally speaking:

• Buy a book
• Don't read it cover to cover but know where everything can be found
• Find a pet project to work on
• Learn from experience, but use the book as a reference
• Where the book fails, there is always google

Note: the third point sometimes comes first.

Edit: To answer the question "Why?"

Google is great to find out how to do something, but it's not great for finding out what you don't know. Why would you ever google "C# delegates," if you didn't first know that C# has a concept called delegates and that it might be useful to solve a problem you're working on?

Also, the signal-to-noise ratio can be a bit high sometimes. If you have a rough idea in your head how something is done then you can easily confirm whether the article you are reading is correct. But if you've no clue... you can end up in a bigger mess.

Answer 2

Some reasons why books are still relevant:

1. I find it easier to read a lot of text on paper than on standard LCD screen, maybe e-books on a e-ink display will change this.
2. Book tend to describe the big picture and some good practices, that is really good when you need a quick start or a new view.
3. Google is really good when you need examples on specific topic, but not for the big picture.

But a book will never take you all the way, it will just push you in the right direction.

Answer 3

When I learned programming back in the 1980s books where more or less the only source of information available to completely learn a programming language as a whole. In addition you could buy computer magazines, but their content was random articles which may have been interesting and helpful or not.

Nowadays you can find all the information you need on the Internet. Though I would regard a complete tutorial as similar enough to a book.

How you learn may depend on you personal preferences or on actual needs.

The advantage of a "complete text", if book or online tutorial, will be that it covers material that, while not actually necessary, will help you later. It's just to know that something is possible and to know where to find it. Especially if you learn about a complex environment or a very complex language like C++. You can read through many small blogs about Ruby on Rails without ever hearing about Ajax or security matters. As long as you only play around, this may be no issue. But if, as happened to me, you want to go into professional Ruby on Rails development within a few weeks, then working with a text that covers all important points will help a lot.

Other books cover details about programming style, best practices, design patterns or certain groups of algorithms. You can work with them and maybe of all the design patterns you will only ever apply a very small subset. Still, it is helpful to know them and know where to find them. And it's simply a way to train your thought processes into a direction where you are more interested in "building a solution" than "making it somehow run".

Personally I like reading, so I don't have the feeling that books are dry. Though it is important of course, that the book is on your actual level of knowledge or beyond. If you have already mastered all the basics of C#, it doesn't make much sense to read a beginners book.

Answer 4

A book (or web documentation structured like a book) is still my preferred way of learning most languages.

If you just dive into a language and find stuff out for yourself, you're likely to miss out on important aspects, which a good book would have delivered to you at the right time.

For example, some colleagues of mine learned Java by diving in without a book. They'd been programming in Java for some years, when I discovered they were routinely manipulating arrays of byte[] by converting the array into a String, using .substring(), then converting the String back into an array. System.ArrayCopy() is introduced on page 155 of Java In A Nutshell

I hope you recognise that learning is easier with a teacher, than alone. A good book is a cheap substitute for a good teacher. It will introduce concepts in a carefully planned order, so you can build up a thorough understanding -- not merely enough to get by.

Answer 5

I think you might be on to something. For me at least, most of my skills have come from wanting/needing a program that does "X".

Maybe the people that learn this way aren't asking for help; they're just too busy getting it done (poorly, but learning along the way). The folks who want to be programmers (as apposed to that first group) ask a lot of questions about how to be a programmer, or how to program, even though they don't necessarily have a problem to solve, and these aren't questions with direct answers.

And so we punt to books. "Oh yeah, pick up a copy of 'Dive into Python.'" "Is that how you learned?" "Nope" "Um..." "I'm kind of busy, but I'll help if you get stuck" "Uh... OK, I guess"

On the other hand, I value the heck out of good reading material when I am learning, so that I can see how the problem I'm trying to solve is solved by a more skilled author, or maybe just so that I can learn some "beginner" techniques I might not have pick up along the way.

TLDR: books are good, learning by doing is good, learning by doing books is ???

Answer 6

I love reading technical books. Not all technical books, just the ones about a particular subject I'm interested in, say Sharepoint. I recall the first book I really read (multiple times),s Programming Windows by Charles Petzold. Because of this and many others, I was capable of writing a Win32 application from memory. I hardly needed to look up an API, so was I was able to focus on the business part instead.

I feel that books provide an "authorative" way of doing something, perhaps by someone who knows the right way to do something better than me. I trust that what I'm learning is, dare I say it, the best way to solve my problem. That is, of course, if I trust the author (gotta love the reviews area in Amazon).

Although I find myself now more and more "googling" and copying and pasting when I try to solve a problem, I spend a good chunk of time making sure that what I'm copying (or being inspired by:) is something trustworthy that I can put in my code. Just because I find a solution on the web, it isn't necessarily the best.

While I, like so many other programmers, now simply google the answers, I still find myself picking up books from known authors. I feel the content is brought to me by someone who is good at explaining it (teaching it), and it saves me from having to filter all the junk from my Google results.

Answer 7

I assume your question was not meant as "why use old technology like a printed book instead of HTML pages", but "why read longer texts about programming written by one or few authors".

You can think of books as structured collection of information about a certain subject. It has the advantage that someone has made the effort to build each chapter onto each other to make understanding the topic easy. Usually, you are also told what the boundaries of the information are (what is covered and what else there is that you need to look out for elsewhere). After reading and working with it, you can be sure of having achieved a certain skill. If you want to learn with the fast forward button pressed, a book can force you to work through every aspect without skipping the boring parts, at least if you trust the structure of the book. The collection named "book" is most often useful as a reference, too.

Using the Internet, blogs, "fiddling around", etc. usually falls into the kind of unstructured information. You get loads of bits and pieces of wisdom, but you have to do more search work to get to build up your knowledge, because no one will guide you in saying "learn this first or you won't see the merit of that stuff you have googled up now". You might miss certain parts because they are too boring or no one told you they were important. You might learn things wrong, because not everything written on the Internet is first quality. You might spend a lot of time filtering out useless search results. You might waste days with trying to accomplish something on your own, just because you didn't know a certain design pattern or programming construct and no one told you. The less you know, the worse it gets with unstructured information IMHO.

To put it a bit provocative: I would never trust an architect to build a bridge which I have to cross each day if he told me he had never read a book about bridge building or structural analysis but just learned it by fiddling around and using Google...

Answer 8

If you are a C programmer, how do you expect to learn Python without a book or teacher?

If you just learn the basic syntax and dive right in, you will end up writing C code in Python, and come to the false conclusion that Python is just as verbose and painful as C.

Answer 9

Google is typically only good for finding small snippets of code or open-source libraries. Documentation for some libraries/programs is unreliable at best (if it exists, it only shows you simple or common examples.)

I don't have many programming books, but I can tell you right now that I've got a book about OpenGL, and it's got the majority of the code for a 3D engine in it, which you can simply copy, but you can read the theory as well -- you just have to turn a few pages and an explanation of the code is right there, waiting to be read. Nowadays, you could probably find some open-source 3D engines on the net, but if you need to change the code substantially, you're probably in some trouble -- typically no help forum exists and the people on SO won't know the answer to your question if it's very specialized. When it comes to really specialized stuff, only a few dozen people in the entire world are going to be able to answer your question without spending hours in order to figure out enough to be in a position to come up with an answer. If you ask how to implement a linked list in C#, you're going to get 5+ answers on SO in the first 10 minutes, but if you ask what the best way to go about implementing a complex shading algorithm in three.js is, your question is going to sink off the front page like a rock.

On top of that, books are written almost exclusively from the perspective that the reader wants to learn about the theory involved, whereas google just produces random junk -- code snippets, archived discussions about the subject in which nobody knows what they're talking about, etc. Sources on the internet have gotten a lot better: SO, Moz Dev Network, Microsoft's web site, blogs, etc., but historically, books have been much better, with internet sources just now catching up.

Answer 10

The quality of writing in the best books is such that a lot of the non-obvious issues are laid out before you even start. An author with a lot of experience will know to tell you about things like: unexpected side-effects, long-term repercussions, undocumented features, typical usage scenarios...

Basically, you are getting the benefit of a writer with a lot of experience walking you through the problem and pointing out the truly interesting bits.

Sometimes you can find this in online references as well, but because of the low barrier to entry a lot of the information online is too basic, missing on details, or just outright wrong. This can happen with books too, so make sure you only outright believe those books which are classics with consistently good reviews. Other books can also be useful, but only as one of the sources, you will still have to verify the information by cross-referencing or trying yourself.

Answer 11

Books tend to come with a great deal of information in a structured format. Google tends to come with a huge amount of information not always particularly structured and difficult to organise in terms of what you need to do.

I don't actually read physical paper books anymore - there's an electronic reader beside me and I have Kindle software on my laptop which gives me access to the information I am looking for.

Where Google is helpful is if you're not looking for a structured overview of how to program, but need details on how to program a specific task. Someone's nearly always written code for that task before, or, at least, something like it.

I think there's a difference between learning to program and learning to program a specific task. I would question the quality of code coming from someone who only ever learned bits and pieces from googling specific tasks if they've never really gotten a decent overview on how to program. This is not language specific, it's more conceptual.

Answer 12

Books are useful if you want to go deeper into a subject. Sure I learned C# from doing a few tutorials and writing some (pet) projects. But C# in depth is still useful to see what goes on underneath and to learn a few new things.

Also, I can take a programming book and read it in my bath or outside in the sun. I cannot do that with my desktop PC.

Answer 13

Because it is a convenient way to learn from other programmers.

Books are a supplement. You can only get so far so fast working on your own. Who wouldn't rather be on a project with a better programmer willing to teach you something than just read the book?

I tend to use them more as a reference rather than an "Everything you'll ever need to know about programming."

Answer 14

Books allow you to absorb a set of information in a "passive" way. You don't have to look what is possible you get presented a subset of the possibilities. When I was learning C# the book really helped pointing out the possibilities, and wonder what were the C++ equivalents. Of course the mastering took place when using it in a (real size) project. But the book really helped on pointing out differences and possibilities.

Answer 15

In short, I think that books tend to be more useful at a high level. They can give you design guidance and help you prevent problems instead of solving them.

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Books certainly have their disadvantages. My copy of Programming Python covers Python 2.0, but the runtime I use is 2.6.

However, I think the important aspect of books is that you can find things that you wouldn't stumble on yourself. Google helps you solve specific problems, but books will help you with design. And not just design books. If you read a good book that helps you understand the design of a language, you will better understand how to use that language.

Other books are good for refining your knowledge. I think Scott Murphy's Effective C++ book are a good example. While this book aren't really very good for learning C++, it helps you see problems in algorithm/interface/inheritance design that you haven't encountered (yet) or worked around. It might be easy to find a simple solution (that my cause other problems later), but by understanding the language better you can design your software to avoid these problems in the first place.

Of course, it's not the fact that books are printed on paper that makes them worthwhile. The care and effort that goes into creating them and the desire to give a rigorous education are what give books value. Often as a side-effect you get useful online resources like C++ FAQ lite or ebooks like Dive into Python. There are also online-only tutorials that are thorough and useful learning tools (like the documentation for some platforms/languages/libraries).

Snippets on the web are a good way of answering your question, but they rarely tell you what you should be asking.

Answer 16

I want to become a programmer, so I am using programming books. Books will allow me to become professionally proficient at programming.

Answer 17

I haven't really read a programming book in a long time. I use to use them as reference guides, but now I think the Internet is easier for most languages and frameworks.

Anyway, I think the best thing to learn from programming books is the core language. For instance, my first real language was C. I learned it by writing an OS (I don't recommend this). As a result, my knowledge of C was pretty crippled even after two or three years of programming in it. I never got a good core knowledge of the language. I didn't know I could turn these 15 lines of messy code into a clean two lines of code. So I could solve problems, but I wasn't utilizing C to its full extent.

Then at one point I decided to learn C++... (about 2 years after beginning to learn C). So I read the only C++ book I had around, a C++ For Dummies Book. I read about 3/4ths of it straight through, doing very little "doing" during that time.. and as a result when I did jump into my first project instead of being comfortable with that 15 lines of messy code, I knew there was an easier way to do it (even though I may have had to look it up).

I did the same thing when I learned C#/ASP.NET. I did almost nothing but read until I was done with about 3/4ths of the book. And for what I didn't learn, I browsed Stack Overflow for interesting C# questions. When I stepped into my first project, I'd say that most of my code was relatively clean and has only had to be "hugely" refactored once since then.

So I would say that books are very useful for learning the capabilities of a framework or language. Beyond that though, they're mostly made useless by the Internet, except for of course the strong theoretical and specifically-designed-to-be-reference-material books.

Answer 18

It's less about what you read, but how much. I like to have a couple of programming books on the go while I am working on a project. Every now and again (more often than you might think) you'll read about a technique that can be applied to your current project.

Once you've implemented into a real world solution, the information will stick.

Answer 19

I prefer using books because I feel that they provide a snapshot of the state of the technology you are working on. The author will state that with X.X version of Y language/library, this is how you solve problem Z. May website tutorials fail to list what versions they are using or provide the example code that they use while books often do.

Books often cover the "why" this solution solves the problem while online docs are typically copy paste.

You can also often lose links to all your references, they can move, or go down. I protect and take care of my books like an investment (which they are).

Answer 20

You can solve problems without reading books, but then will you really know what is happening behind your program to solve that problem?

You need to know what is happening and what could have been a better alternative. For that you need good programming books. Just reading books of course is not enough, you need to understand the content, go through other books, think of different approaches of solving problems and so on. Learning continues with and without books.

Answer 21

When I was learning C++ I found most literature pretty useless until something in my head clicked. To this day I am not sure what it was, but everything started to make sense. Books and websites then made far more sense. It took me 2 books to learn how to program in C++ and neither were true C++ books (they were Visual C++ books which focused primarily on MFC).

If you get the right book(s) then it can be really useful. A friend of mine was reading some Dietel books at uni and I found those extremely well written. I have never found the "... for Dummies" books that useful because they don't explain things in the right way for me. Best advice is go to a bookshop and get a taster of the book so that you don't go wasting loads of money on what tend to be extremely expensive books.

For some programming topics I find it useful to read several books, undertake research via Google and experiment. I found myself doing this a lot when I was working on AI algorithms when I was working on a checkers game with J2ME. I also found myself doing this when I was learning how to create a compiler compiler for custom syntaxes. There are so many different variations and views.

Sometimes having an understanding of multiple views allows you to make connections that are otherwise more obscure.

Answer 22

I tend to learn (programming) from both books and "just in time" sources like the web. Both can be good but overall I prefer to learn from books, here's why:

When you learn only what you need to know immediately to finish a part of a project sometimes you miss out on the big picture. The best books are not merely references but in a sense achieve something closer to an apprenticeship, by providing a well rounded overview of a technology and lots of seasoned advice about the best solutions to common problems.

Just-in-time learning can very easily suffer from the problem of satisficing, when you identify a problem you want to solve you jump to the first solution that seems to work, then you run off to the interwebs to find out how to implement it. However, often this can get you in trouble, if you had been able to have a conversation with an experienced programmer about your problem they wouldn't tell you "here's how to do X" they'd tell you instead "don't do X, do Y instead". And this is the sort of knowledge that you tend to get from the best books. Indeed, some books are entirely about this sort of thing, such as Javascript: The Good Parts.

The other problem that JIT learning can have is a much slower learning curve. With JIT learning you tend to learn only what you need to know. But often just having a base core of knowledge can accelerate learning a new language or framework. Instead of stumbling over the basics you start off with a solid foundation and then build from there. A good chunk of material you may cover while reading a book may not be immediately useful for you, but having that background knowledge can be beneficial in guiding your decision making and especially in understanding new code that you're exposed to. There's a trade-off of course and there are bad books that just pile on useless facts that you won't remember after you've read them but there are also good books that give you a good grounding in the fundamentals and what's possible even if you don't have to use that knowledge on a daily basis.

There are also books at a higher level than a single technological subject which I think are crucial to maturing as a developer. Books like Code Complete, Refactoring, Working Effectively With Legacy Code, etc. You're not going to pick up the knowledge from those books just through JIT learning.

Answer 23

I think I go for reading books.Especially downloading ebooks.Reading each and every part of the chapter.Copy their code! paste to your programming editor and then see what the output is.Then try to change the logic of it.I mentioned downloadable ebooks because to work faster.Books are really superb.I am not lying but since last November till today.I have finished around 20 books.It all requires love to read.What the newbies do is that they solve specific problem taking the help form internet.But when a real complex task is given to them,they give up.Reason,no knowledge about the task and its solution.For example I have bounded the controls with datatable and don't know what datasets do and I have been provided with the task to make relation(s) between memory resident copies of database tables I can't do it.

Answer 24

It is very difficult for new programmers to understand what programming actually is, how deep it is.

Anyone can write a program to tell a computer to do--well just about anything with very little learning, this isn't hard! What's hard is making a program that is supportable and can be understood quickly and comprehended deeply by other members of the team, this part takes years, dozens of years.

In addition learning to work as an effective part of a team is a bit of a curve.

So how do books help solve these "Real" programming problems in ways that looking up references on the web don't?

Well two of my favorite books are "Design Patterns" and "Refactoring".

Refactoring is a great book telling you how to recognize bad code. If you have learned by looking up coding references, this book (Well one of the many Refactoring books) is critical.

Design patterns doesn't really offer much that a good programmer can't figure out, but it did give names to a wide range of patterns everyone already used in code. This enabled programmers to more effectively communicate and helped some programmers find new ways to attack problems. Although you can find design patterns on the web, It's much easier to google the name of the design pattern than--google what you are trying to do.

I've been asked in interviews to describe these two books and what they are trying to accomplish, I think this is a very valid interview question... I'd want to pay attention to a programmer who didn't know about these two books unless he was applying for an extremely junior position.

Answer 25

I learned to program from books directly. About 20 years ago before google and the net ever became popular. I think they are great resources. However most modern day books just quote technical articles by the manufacturers. So I now agree it is better to learn online. With a word of warning as follows:

Even though I read many many books, and had internet access almost since it was financially feasable. I was never, ever able to complete any sort of sizeable project. Sure I could do many of the sizeable projects in big advanced books where they take 20 chapters to walk you through it, but when it came to my own real world projects, I always without execption hit a brick wall. I got to tell you, I read some heavy books.

I had problems all my life getting into college, but I am now going into my third year. In my first year I met people in 4th year, and masters, and was able to hold productive conversations about the theories of AI, HCI, assembler, and compiler development ect. But yet with all this knowledge I could not create a reasonable program. What was I missing... The one thing you cannot get from any book, or online.

Structure. In first year, I learned nothing of a technical nature (Allready knew the whole lot and breased through it without a days study, execpt maths and design as these were reasonably new to me), but I did learn structure and teamwork. In my first summer holidays I got closer than ever to completing my first real work.

In my second year, I learned a good deal of new tech stuff (still the basics in comparson to what I knew, but I was putting the theory I knew to real practice). This emphasised the importance of structure all over again. I have not completed my first real project. I now consider myself a programmer.

I dont beleive its necessary to read books to learn programming. But its a help. However, I do certantly beleive that no book or website teaches or can teach what you get from even 2 years of college. If you have managed to complete projects without ever going to college, fair play, but it is an experience I highly recommend no matter the age.

Books are good, internet is better, google and you tube are fab, but nothing beats good old fashoned college in my opionion. And I doubt any amount of googling and youtubing ever will, and I know first hand that no amount of books ever will.

Answer 26

I have no clue. I'm against programming books. In most cases, you still have to research on Internet to search additional information.

Do you want to learn a programming language? Google for it. I hated jQuery because it was looking hard. Then I came to Stack Overflow, and I know a lot from that. Without the help of any books.

• Google for it
• Look around for some professional, complete open source application
• Browse in that code and TRY to get what is going on.
• Try to write some fast/simple application from snippets of an existing code.
• Try to rewrite it for yourself.
• Find more tutorials on Internet
• Take experience
• Take more experience
• You just learned a new language! (I didn't say you will be an expert, but the basics are learned in a few hours or days)

Answer 27

I think it's right that programming cannot be learned from books only (as most of the people mentioned), you need to practice a lot and there are many resources available on the internet (articles, videos, samples etc.).

But a good book fills the gaps in your knowledge. After reading a book cover to cover gives you confidence that you don't have any gaping holes in your knowledge of the subject. Though the challange is to find good books on the subject.