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comment Should we quit trying to do agile if QA takes 12 weeks?
Furthermore, I don't recall ever getting feedback from QA until after the build from the last sprint as I mentioned above. This validates your point. What I think this could lead to is situations where decisions that are made in sprint 1 turn out to be faulty decisions, but that faulty decision is not fully realized until all the subsequent work is done on top of that faulty decision. This of course could lead to a huge amount of rework.
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comment Should we quit trying to do agile if QA takes 12 weeks?
Right. I was just discussing this with a colleague. I'd say we haven't even really been doing proper releases at the end of each sprint. We do a build at the end of each sprint because that's what Agile says you should do, but we have no intention of anyone ever seeing that build. I don't know if QA gets those builds or not, but I can assure that you no customer will ever see a build at the end of the sprint. Only one build is potentially official, and it's the one from the last sprint. In my mind, that's totally not Agile at all. With that workflow, Agile is only a way to organize work.
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comment Should we quit trying to do agile if QA takes 12 weeks?
@merryprankster Could you elaborate on your response? Do you mean to say it's pointless to not have QA be a part of the team and verify quality as part of the sprint? Or do you mean that the team should be verifying quality on their own to a point where QA should be rendered almost useless? Or perhaps another meaning? I don't know correct answers here. I'm just looking for any advice I can get on a way to rectify a situation that I feel is horribly broken. Thanks.
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comment Should we quit trying to do agile if QA takes 12 weeks?
@Mchl You are correct. I failed to explicitly state that I am in development.
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comment Should we quit trying to do agile if QA takes 12 weeks?
@TokenMacGuy (I'm a Mac guy as well by the way) This is my exact feeling and the cause of my frustration. Consensus seems to be that I'm definitely not off base for feeling this way.
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