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comment Code Review process
Just a handle I use. Got the nickname in Spain since I'm blond. ;)
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
Good link, thanks. I remember reading an excellent magazine article exploring different ways to name unit tests but can't for the death of me find it now. May have been Visual Studio Magazine or Code Magazine.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
Generating a report of the 3500 unit/integration tests that passed would probably be of little help to tester, even if the tests were well named (which they should be but aren't). In order to provide testers with meaningful information about unit test, the dev would have to dig through the unit test associated with a particular feature and somehow communicate to the tester what is actually tested and how it's asserted. That's a lot of work.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
Good points. She does seem like a reasonable person. My fear, which I didn't make very clear, is that the unit tests lead the testers in the wrong direction and false security in what they need and need not test.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
@Jarrod Good question. Kinda both I guess. I work in an environment with a strictly formal process, which inevitably produces bureaucracy. I don't mind bureaucracy as long as I can see some benefit. Here I can't
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
@Yannis I never said I already have the reports. It would be quite a bit of work to produce unit/integration test reports that would be meaningful to a tester.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
SOX no, CMMI yes. Our unit/integration tests are part of the code review process and that does stand up to audit. I can get a generated report from a unit/integration test run, but that's pretty cryptic for a tester. Coverage is also in the report but that in itself means nothing.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
But shouldn't the focus come from the specs? There are situations when code changes have unexpected repercussions and then it's very important for the dev to communicate that testing should also cover this and this.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
Redundant testing is what's often used as an argument and may sometimes be true. However, system testing is always performed on the entire system whereas unit/integration testing focuses on a specific unit. I see a danger here.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
The downside to me is extra work that provides no or little value.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
@Yannis If you have never been asked to do work that you deem useless, then it doesn't matter. To you, that is.
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comment Is unit testing development or testing?
@Ludwig I haven't been able to get a clear answer as to what can be gained from unit test reports. I have a feeling it's more of a turf war, since it contains the "testing".
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