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Computer Scientist, Cognitive Scientist, Philosophy of Mind, Painter, Poet, Biker and Judoka (that I remember)

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comment free as in free beer
@David Hum... Comes to my mind an economic concept enterprises should take into consideration when investing their money: bearer bond. Even if you want to give your copy of a licensed proprietary software made to you to your nephews, you couldn't because of restrictions in the license. Now gpl software is bearer bond, proprietary software isn't. Some even state that you do not buy the software, but the right to use it.
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comment free as in free beer
@David: In this crazy scenario, suppose a user bought a GPL software for 1 million. Is it illegal for him to give it for free to another user? Is it illegal if he sells the same software for 500 bucks? Is it even possible a joint of many users brings up the money to buy only one copy? And after some months, when the value of the initial purchase is dissolved, you will find people who don't care to give it for free? I mean, in principle, it is free, not illegal to give away. It is a matter of finding who wants to give you the software. Not a matter of licensing.
Mar
25
comment free as in free beer
Hi @David. Thanks for clarifying. So the scenario is: some enterprise (lets say) made a GPL software and want to sell. It sells a lot. People paid for it. Now, one wants the software but for free. Then, he/she can't find a single person, nor the very enterprise, who is willing to give him/her a copy? That is why the software is not necessarily gratis? (Although, in principle, it is still gratis! Some just cant find a distributor?)
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comment free as in free beer
But in the first case (free-dom software), don't you think that if the software can be given away, don't necessarily means it is gratis?
Mar
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comment free as in free beer
Dear @ohho, could you elaborate a little bit on the specifics? The link you posted shows a GPL go program for iPhone? Thanks!
Mar
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comment free as in free beer
Hi there @faif. So do you believe it is possible to have a truly free software accordingly to all freedoms and that is also not forced gratis? Thanks for sharing.
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minor typo
Mar
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comment free as in free beer
@Steven, yes, I agree the question has to be build in an environment, but that is just because it is not a simple "yes" or "no" question. You can read it more objectively if you think: 1- is a free (freedom) software necessarily free (gratis)? 2- is a free (gratis) software necessarily free (freedom)? Thanks.
Mar
24
comment free as in free beer
Thanks for sharing your view. This is really a good approach to the problem posted. This answer can really enlighten the use of "free" chosen by FSF. But in some ways, although I disagree, the answer given by @Martin touched another point, about some stigma the word carries.
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comment free as in free beer
I see. But it is too strong to say free as worthless, isn't it? Well, you are the english guy. I just learned as second language. :)
Mar
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comment free as in free beer
Hi Trezoid! Hum... That is good news. :)