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Programmer/Analyst and Database Administrator in higher education working largely with the student information system. When I get home from work I switch gears to Python, Django, Javascript, CSS, and HTML. I have also peeked at Android and iOS development.

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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
@DKnight: Thanks. First write was coming right off a discussion on the subject and I admit I was probably not thinking the question through as best I could.
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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
@SLott: Thanks. Understood and agreed. I need to stop caring so much about things I don't have any control over and accept them. After all it's the coding that is the most fun anyway :). Thanks again.
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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
@SLott: Ok sure. I agree with moving on. I'll say this too. It is not all just about how we want to use one OS over the other. The fact that Red Hat costs a lot more matters to all of us. We're a non profit organization and requests have been made to cut spending, not increase it. Thanks for the advice.
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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
@Chris: Yeah, I could have explained it all better. I apologize. I did just make a comment below. The fact is that the line between SA/Programmer is very gray. As programmers we too have root access to many machines, install updates on many machines, get called when machines are down, etc. So I think one thing we try to argue is if we are going to have to deal with managing and installing things on the systems anyway, why can't we use the tools we want?
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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
We're really a smallish shop. SAs countable on one hand and Programmers on two. All of us supporting a single organization. (Don't sell any of our services or anything...just in support to our organization). Lines between SA/programmer are often blurry in both directions. We all could be considered SAs in many places as most things are code changes to 1 or 2 main systems delivered by a vendor. A few of us are trying to show the glories of things like version control and some modern frameworks. I would love it if we had capabilities to do as you suggest.
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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
Yeah, I think you're right. Talked in a smaller group on a more 1 to 1 basis and found that the SAs tend to agree with us, but have concerns about another SA blaming any future system problems on Ubuntu. I see their concern there. All things that couldn't be voiced in larger group meetings.
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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
I like this answer. Not really an us vs them thing. I asked more as a "what could we say from a programming perspective that would help show why newer libraries is important to us and why they matter" We all really are more closely working than our titles might show, as system updates, as well as bringing downed systems back up is usually the duties of the person who is in charge of that server....which may or may not be a sys admin. They do get paged before calling us though....so that is worth something :).
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Sorry if I wasn't clear enough above. All discussions have really been around what I said above. Our requests for Ubuntu because of its more up to date repositories and included libraries.
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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
Scared really is what the issue is. They have expressed worry in having to know how to update different distributions. As I said above we have talked to them. The issue keeps coming up every few months and it never gets anywhere productive. It always ends with the head SA saying he doesn't have any big reasons against it but he doesn't want to have to manage multiple distros. Like I said above, I really am looking for advice on what to tell them as telling them why we want something different hasn't seemed to work.
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comment How should a programmer get what they need/want from a systems administrator?
@ddyer: I like your idea, but seems like unnecessary overhead. Also, the backups that are set up would be backing up the host system, and not the virtual machine. (so yeah the vm would be backed up itself....but that buries the actual things needed).