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Nov
3
comment Functional testing must be done by external party to avoid bias?
@michael_borgwardt For all I know, that may be true in your location/industry. But I know it's not true everywhere. I'm in the UK. Some companies pay testers less, but others have the same pay ladder for testers and devs of equivalent skill/experience. (Anecdotal: in one team I worked in, the highest paid tester's salary (wasn't me!) = 150% of highest paid dev, with roughly equivalent experience & responsibility. Several times I've discovered I was earning more than devs with same exp - I never told them though!)
Dec
8
comment Functional testing must be done by external party to avoid bias?
+1 Great answer.
Dec
8
comment Functional testing must be done by external party to avoid bias?
I'd say that was a bit of a false economy - in my experience, hiring "cheap" for testers can work out pretty expensive. Testing is one of those professions where the very bottom end of the market is absolutely useless - there's a huge gulf between the unskilled commodity "warm bodies" some agencies will send you, and skilled candidates.
Jun
17
comment 30 minutes to explain programming to a 15 year old
+1 for getting her to try it herself too.
Jun
17
comment 30 minutes to explain programming to a 15 year old
@FrustratedWithFormsDesigner I went on a "let's persuade school kids it's worth applying to CS" day when I was 15, along with several other bright kids from my school. Command line stuff LOOKED COOL. It looked super powerful to us, and that made it COOOOOL. Don't assume that 15 year old girls don't want to rule the universe :)
Apr
26
comment What I need to do to learn Quality Assurance?
@StuperUser, you're basically saying that Cem Kaner is wrong. I think he knows rather a lot more than you do about exploratory testing, testing, and QA. But if you're not interested in that, and it's clear you've not read any of the links, then there really is nothing else that's worth saying.
Apr
22
comment Is it reasonable for QA department to get higher average salary than that of development department?
I wouldn't call them testers if they were doing the latter, I'd call them unskilled, untrained help.
Apr
16
comment Testing activities carried out in an OO development project
"For the manual user test, if you are using Use Cases you can create test cases for the tester based on those." I'd say this would be something better done by a professional tester - they will come up with far more challenging scenarios, and test design is a skillset that most people do not possess.
Apr
16
comment What techniques should be used to ensure clear communication from the customer?
Added requirements and specifications tags.
Apr
15
comment What I need to do to learn Quality Assurance?
@Wyatt - I didn't break it, it was already broken when I got it! ;)
Apr
15
comment What I need to do to learn Quality Assurance?
@Stuperuser, the problem is that you're saying "that is only exploratory testing. QA is much, much wider", and then you name things that would be part of an exploratory testing approach. Did you mean to imply ET cannot include non-functional testing? If so - then your understanding is at odds with Cem Kaner's. (I think his definition is canonical, don't you?) If that's not what you meant to convey, what did you mean? What do you think ET is?
Apr
13
comment What I need to do to learn Quality Assurance?
Your understanding of "exploratory testing" seems to be somewhat lacking - try Cem Kaner's definition first: satisfice.com/kaner/?p=42 (he coined the term), and then try reading this: developsense.com/blog/2008/09/evolving-understanding-about There is nothing in the definition of "exploratory testing" that excludes any type of functional or non-functional testing.
Apr
4
comment What should I know or learn to get up to speed on being a software QA engineer?
The paper sounds a lot more relevant to a manufacturing environment than to a development environment: what made you recommend it?
Apr
3
comment Key phrases showing benefits performing certified software testing for “your” company?
And what benefit does that certification give the customer - does ISTQB promise to indemnify your customer against your (potential) incompetence? Do they promise to decertify you if a customer provides evidence that you have behaved improperly? Or is it just intended as a marketing aid?
Mar
16
comment Can an agile shop really score 12 on the Joel Test?
@Simon - if your agile testers don't care to call themselves testers, I guess they've never heard of Elisabeth Hendrickson, Lisa Crispin, Janet Gregory...
Mar
13
comment What quantitative metrics do you use to measure the quality of an offshore testing team?
Traceability matrix is only applicable to some very specific environments: if you're being asked to confirm compliance to requirements, then you would use it. It doesn't tell you anything however, about other quality aspects of the software, and should be regarded as a bad sign if used in an inappropriate project context.
Mar
13
comment How to Structure Bonuses for Software Developers?
I've seen extreme versions of this, where different depts would not cooperate on anything that ran the risk of reducing their bonus score. It really didn't matter if it cost the company money, it was purely "will I get my bonus? Then I don't care if we lost 2 highly trained engineers to the competition".
Mar
13
comment How to Structure Bonuses for Software Developers?
If people are slacking in an otherwise well-performing group, and this isn't due to some temporary issue (health problems, recent bereavement, etc), then surely the way to deal with this is to ask them to improve, or leave? Carrying a team member who is incapable or unwilling to do the work is a huge destroyer of morale. I don't think incentives are a good way to deal with that issue. +1 for your point in the first paragraph.
Mar
13
comment Is there value in having new developers (graduates) start as testers / bug-fixers?
Testers might write programmatic test cases, and test manually. I would expect testers to be able to bridge both sides - looking at the app from the technical and the business perspective - in order to create really challenging tests. In my organisation, there is a distinct separate role for "tester" - different training, different mindset, different (but overlapping in some places) skillset.
Mar
12
comment Is there value in having new developers (graduates) start as testers / bug-fixers?
+1 for pointing out the flaw in hiring people to do something, and having them spend the first year doing something else. However, as a tester, I'd say you're wrong about "Hire testers for the things that really need a face in front of the screen". Yes, that is a small part of what I do. But I don't always need my face in front of a screen to find issues - in fact, I often find a lot of issues before the code is even written. You are right that it's a different skill set. The point of having me or my tester colleagues on a team is because we practice looking at things differently.